1.3.13 Beta release

Graf Zahl · **Posted:** Fri Oct 16, 2009 23:06

Here's the latest beta version that includes all the latest changes. This is mostly for testing so that I can get better feedback if everything still works. I think it can be used for regular playing but please be aware that this has not been extensively tested yet.

1.3.10 adds a new 'bench' command that should make running tests easier.

Alter · **Posted:** Sun Oct 25, 2009 18:44

This is a great release but you should goddamn fix the issues which ATI users do have >> even with latest cards, that includes like 50% of my testers on the Xenus 3 project (a stand-alone IWAD). I understand this is beta but the issues are as if the new renderer was in alpha state. Just telling you for your own information Graf Zahl. No offense intended. Oh and the issue is that it crashes at start-up for them, "It's not my problem" is not an option neither an answer. Try at least to find out why is that. I consider 2 ways: Either something in gzdoom is screwed up or ATI's drivers are just plain incompatible.

OR simply post the requirements for the new renderer so it's clear whenever the hardware is compatible or not.

Gez · **Joined:** Mon Oct 22, 2007 16:47 **Posts:** 687

Alter wrote:

that includes like 50% of my testers

Have they thought about posting here? Like, participating in the benchmark thread back when it was made, posting crash reports, etc. "It crashes at startup for them" is far from being enough information to determine anything; unless Graf has psychic powers.

Also, back when I had a laptop with an old ATI chipset, I had no problem, except extreme slowness in very detailed areas. No crash or oddities. Granted, this was more than 200 revisions ago.

Eruanna · **Joined:** Sat May 13, 2006 10:30 **Posts:** 1673

Gez wrote:

Alter wrote:

that includes like 50% of my testers

Have they thought about posting here?

I have to say, I agree with this statement here. A developer does NOT know the needs of their audience if they do not communicate with them.

Alter · **Posted:** Sun Oct 25, 2009 18:57

SoulPriestess wrote:

Gez wrote:

Alter wrote:

that includes like 50% of my testers

Have they thought about posting here?

I have to say, I agree with this statement here. A developer does NOT know the needs of their audience if they do not communicate with them.

One of them will post here soon. So wait a bit.

Whoo · **Joined:** Sun Feb 03, 2008 23:28 **Posts:** 29

Gez wrote:

Alter wrote:

that includes like 50% of my testers

Have they thought about posting here? Like, participating in the benchmark thread back when it was made

Ok. I'm one of the testers having problems. I couldn't even get this beta to run (I tried 18 times), and here is the error log it gave. I had to switch to r551 to play, and even then large open areas made my FPS go down below five.

Edit: In case you're wondering, I have an ATi Radeon x1300(PCI Version, 256MB, 452MHz)

Graf Zahl · **Posted:** Sun Oct 25, 2009 19:29

I need your startup log. You get this with 'gzdoom +logfile log'.

Somehow OpenGL doesn't initialize properly on your system.

Graf Zahl · **Posted:** Sun Oct 25, 2009 20:19

Gez wrote:

Alter wrote:

that includes like 50% of my testers

Have they thought about posting here? Like, participating in the benchmark thread back when it was made, posting crash reports, etc. "It crashes at startup for them" is far from being enough information to determine anything; unless Graf has psychic powers.

That's the problem: The helpful feedback I am getting from ATI users is precisely zero. They only come in when stuff is really broken. So what do you expect? I only can test on my own computer and if others won't work I need to know about that.

@alter:
If '50%' of your testers have problems I'd like to hear from *ALL* of them, not just one. If you have problems I need to know about them. If you keep silent until it's too late don't blame me.

Whoo · **Joined:** Sun Feb 03, 2008 23:28 **Posts:** 29

Graf Zahl wrote:

I need your startup log.

Here you go:

Attachment:

logfile.ZIP [1.04 KiB]
Downloaded 61 times

Also, I don't see how OpenGL isn't initializing properly on my system when other OpenGL games run fine.

chopkinsca · **Joined:** Thu Dec 29, 2005 8:09 **Posts:** 172

I'd say "I'm using an ATI card and have no problems" but within moments of trying out this beta there was a rendering error. I can't really post a bug report because I have no idea how to reproduce it. What I got was all flats appeared as if the were textured with F_SKY1.

Actually, it does this every singe time in part of my map. I'll try to contain it, but I don't know. I could send the whole mapset if need be (and of course a startup log)

edit: just a screenshot showing the error. I stayed in the same spot, all that changed was the lowering of some 3dfloors (which you can see in the first half of the image)
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/6650/rendererror.gif

entryway · **Joined:** Sun Sep 04, 2005 22:24 **Posts:** 56

Whoo wrote:

Graf Zahl wrote:

I need your startup log.

Here you go:

wow!

GL_VENDOR: Microsoft Corporation
GL_RENDERER: GDI Generic
GL_VERSION: 1.1.0

Software emulation?

Graf Zahl · **Posted:** Sun Oct 25, 2009 23:27

Whoo wrote:

Graf Zahl wrote:

I need your startup log.

Here you go:

Attachment:

logfile.ZIP

Also, I don't see how OpenGL isn't initializing properly on my system when other OpenGL games run fine.

Your log indicates that OpenGL initializes Microsoft's software implementation. Since your graphics card should easily support GZDoom there must be a problem with your driver installation.

Graf Zahl · **Posted:** Sun Oct 25, 2009 23:30

chopkinsca wrote:

I'd say "I'm using an ATI card and have no problems" but within moments of trying out this beta there was a rendering error. I can't really post a bug report because I have no idea how to reproduce it. What I got was all flats appeared as if the were textured with F_SKY1.

Actually, it does this every singe time in part of my map. I'll try to contain it, but I don't know. I could send the whole mapset if need be (and of course a startup log)

edit: just a screenshot showing the error. I stayed in the same spot, all that changed was the lowering of some 3dfloors (which you can see in the first half of the image)
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/6650/rendererror.gif

Like the other case: What graphics card do you have and could you post a startup log? Without these 2 things I can't do anything.

chopkinsca · **Joined:** Thu Dec 29, 2005 8:09 **Posts:** 172

ATI Radeon 9600 / X1050 Series

Graf Zahl · **Posted:** Sun Oct 25, 2009 23:53

What's your settings in the shader menu? If you change them, does it make a difference?

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