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Re: Welcome to the New Forum

by cybdmn » Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:49

Interesting stuff, i never had a deeper look at the version on the disc, probably because i bought it years after playing Hacx.

Re: Welcome to the New Forum

by Blzut3 » Sun Aug 12, 2012 20:35

Oddly enough, the textures look fine there in 1.0. Granted it could have something to do with me loading it with hacx 1.2 as the iwad, but the AC units look the same. In fact, looking at the iwad there's no obvious texture renaming in that version.

Re: Welcome to the New Forum

by Dr_Nostromo » Sun Aug 12, 2012 15:56

I didn't know there was that much difference. I just remember that the textures got all messed up in my map 12 ...the top floor of the one building that you use the freight elevator to get to is supposed to show a large bank of air conditioning units. I remember when I saw it from the disk, it was just a bunch of texture stripes.

Re: Welcome to the New Forum

by Xaser » Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:28

Several maps in particular indeed have more developed segueways -- War Rooms, for instance, now ends in a Terminal room instead of just randomly at a door, and two entire maps ('Trode Wars and Twilight of ENK's) got swapped completely, with one (Wars) gaining a better-detailed exit room and a legit secret exit. Interesting for sure. ;)

Thanks for sharing, Doc! This is fascinating stuff. :)

Re: Welcome to the New Forum

by Blzut3 » Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:19

Thanks again for the ISO. Xaser and I are examining the release and apparently there are a ton of differences in the levels themselves (as in they seem more complete). This should prove interesting since it looks like the 1.1 release went too far back in time. A 1.3 might be on the way. :P

Re: Welcome to the New Forum

by Dr_Nostromo » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:41

Sorry. I've been busy this past week and haven't had a chance to do this. I'll make a note to do it in the morning.

Nero will make an ISO for me so that's no problem.

Re: Welcome to the New Forum

by Blzut3 » Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:26

Dr_Nostromo wrote:First off, the distribution of the files is under the same royalty free terms as any of the other files.
All right.
Dr_Nostromo wrote:You want me to zip up the entire disc and send you a link?
Probably the best thing to do is to build an iso image from the CD. A quick search results in imgburn as a example of software that can do this. All though I guess with that you need to beware of the optional adware in the installer. (I'm a Linux user which has the ability to do this built into the standard tools, so I don't have any real recommendation here.)

You can also get an md5sum program for Windows and compare with the hashes I posted to see if they match what's on the CD. But if it's easiest for you to just zip the CD then that all right too. :P

Re: Welcome to the New Forum

by Dr_Nostromo » Mon Jul 30, 2012 14:49

First off, the distribution of the files is under the same royalty free terms as any of the other files.

Just before Hacx was released, John Herdon changed the texture names in the Iwad. I don't remember why. Anyway, it messed up some of the textures. One of the biggest examples of this is the air conditioning system on the roof of the building that you get to by riding the freight elevator in my Map 12. They're pretty messed up and no longer look like air conditioning units.

I believe these texture bugs were fixed in the downloadable version (v1.1) we released later ...but this is all ancient history and my memory on the actual series of events may be sketchy. I seem to recall that v1.1 created a new set of problems as well.

Anyway, let me know what files you need and I'll set them up. You want me to zip up the entire disc and send you a link?

Re: Welcome to the New Forum

by Blzut3 » Sun Jul 29, 2012 22:31

cybdmn wrote:custom maps won't work.
Actually I think all known custom hacx maps were made for 1.0. At least the one I tried had a ton of missing texture errors when loading with 1.1.

Edit: I'm looking at things more in depth now and I'm not entirely sure it worked right. Editors can't seem to open it, which I guess might make some sense since didn't vanilla need a special tool in order to edit the sprites? But then again the HACX.EXE it produces doesn't seem to start up either. Here's an md5sum of the files:

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3f23e66feb5f0a078a63ad8d95f8890b  HACX.1
0775c31b1e0b3141483edf98371e06d4  HACX.2
658f032e0b07efd80b4aba71123010b1  HACX.3
5b030993e0cff6e892c63e354d276d2a  HACX.4
0da6f17cb3ba49d7fdce8cb0439ca3d6  HACX.5
bb8a2d6ebe400b579d2c3b6b24ccbca3  HACX.6
e84ceeb1fa4a220c47765fa17bdbb7f4  HACX.7
a3ee740afb3a093580bc52bbbdc1a56f  HACX.8
6b8f8e7a9f574dd0c194316f104ac4a3  HACX.9
2aa1e128eb73bbe1fcb6552c3dbc2e85  HACX.DAT

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9b1898f5b8b08e40bf5f09c1d6d58d55  HACX.BIN
2aa1e128eb73bbe1fcb6552c3dbc2e85  HACX.DAT
1efaea37de74613527f8499c3b24b7a0  HACX.EXE
adb9f80a2b721bee4b8b056d576fb8cb  HACX.WAD

Re: Welcome to the New Forum

by cybdmn » Sun Jul 29, 2012 19:05

Note, that the WAD generated from this i "another" WAD than the downloadable v1.1, textures are all renamed, custom maps won't work.

Re: Welcome to the New Forum

by Blzut3 » Sat Jul 28, 2012 19:39

Thanks, I'll check it out when I get home then (probably some time tomorrow).

Edit: It worked! What are the distribution terms for these files?

Re: Welcome to the New Forum

by Dr_Nostromo » Sat Jul 28, 2012 19:15

Here you go. This is directly off the CD so it should be fine

http://drnostromo.com/misc/Hacx9.zip

Re: Welcome to the New Forum

by Blzut3 » Sat Jul 28, 2012 9:09

The corrupted file was hacx.9 (or whatever the final disk "image") was called. I don't recall if Nostromo tried to resend it, but eventually we decided that his hard disk copy was probably corrupted after all this time and he didn't want to dig up the CD.

I would love to have a working copy though.

Edit: Regarding pressing 2.0 CDs. One thing I would try to do is see if you can squeeze it onto Jim Lynch's sound track CD. I would honestly prefer to see a pressed CD, but whatever can be afforded I guess.

Re: Welcome to the New Forum

by Dr_Nostromo » Fri Jul 27, 2012 16:28

At DW i read, that you have sent the files from the Hacx CD to Bzlut3, but a file is corrupted. Have you send him the files a second time?
Are you talking about the files on the original Hacx CD? I can copy the files into Dropbox ...as long as it doesn't exceed somebody's storage quota. It's 28 megs total.

If Bzlut3 is not connected to DropBox, I can zip them up and put them on my file site and send a link.

Re: Welcome to the New Forum

by Cage » Fri Jul 27, 2012 13:10

Oh and one request: I'd like to make a media update in the next month, alongside with a news post - I'll need some screenshots of the new content to open Hacx 2.0 section in the media page - no hud and 800x600 resolution. Preferably some shots from the new, awesome maps you guys work on :)

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