Doom 2 Sprites Project Advise Inquiry

Dutch Devil · Post by **Dutch Devil** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 23:17

Shinjanji wrote:Damn, and here I was expecting something akin to this: (Note: only the front leg is finished, lol)

Wow pretty damn good looks alot better indeed it would be sweet to see doom monsters as good as this example.

Shinjanji · Post by **Shinjanji** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 0:11

You know, I just thought of something.

If you really want to be good at spriting for Doom, I'd suggest attempting at least part of it... It'd be great practice!

Dutch Devil · Post by **Dutch Devil** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:19

Its probably better to stick all that time in my maps and let someone else do this kind of stuff

it will be an big learning process for me and I'm not sure if I have the patience to go trough all that.

Shinjanji · Post by **Shinjanji** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:03

Got bored and worked on the sprite some more.

Note that I have aboslutely no intention to do them all. If I get bored in the future, I might try to do some other sprite, like the Baron.

(To be done: Arms, back leg)

Phobus · Post by **Phobus** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 18:01

I'd never spend that long making a sprite set :laff:

If I were to try to get that level of detail and shading, I'd first have to draw the sprites well to begin with, and I don't really do that. Shading varies massively from monster to monster, as does quality of rotations

Dutch Devil · Post by **Dutch Devil** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 23:05

Wow looking forward to the finished demon, maybe if you know more people who can do this kind of stuff as well and work as an team to redesign all sprites :p

Post by **Vader** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 13:46

I've to admit that this looks quite good!
IMO the teeth could need some more work though...

mac53 · Post by **mac53** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 17:44

Man..., I'm seriously impressed with Shinjanji's abilities. To be able to do that kind of work
using the paint attributes alone, blows me away.

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Shinjanji

In Paint Shop Pro X, I have [Raster] & [Vector] layers, which one would you recommend that I use, as I'm trying to follow your instructions.

Shinjanji · Post by **Shinjanji** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 3:23

Raster layers. Vectors won't work for this particular application.

Though, if you could accurately vectorize the entire sprite and have it look perfect, then you could scale it to WHATEVER resolution you wanted, with no loss in quality (Though you would need to re-add some details)

But I'm seriously suggesting AGAINST using vectors. Just stay with the raster imagery, like the original

EDIT:

Vader wrote:I've to admit that this looks quite good!
IMO the teeth could need some more work though...

Yeah, I totally forgot the upper teeth. I noticed that yesterday, but I'll fix that once I go back and work on the sprite more. When that'll be, I don't know.

EDIT2:

mac53 wrote:Man..., I'm seriously impressed with Shinjanji's abilities. To be able to do that kind of work
using the paint attributes alone, blows me away.

Well, that comes from 3 things:
1. Knowledge of my medium. I've been using Photoshop since version 5.5.
2. My tools. I have a Wacom Intuos3 graphics tablet. [link] I could only afford the 4"x5" though.
3. Artistic experience. I'm FAR from the best, but I can draw more than just stick figures. [http://shinjanji.deviantart.com/]

Post by **solarsnowfall** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 18:52

Shinjanji wrote:Note that I have aboslutely no intention to do them all.

Not that I can blame you, but that's a damn shame. Without high resolution sprites, high resolution textures just don't look right.

Shinjanji · Post by **Shinjanji** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 20:05

Yeah, I would love to see the resolution overhauled just as much as the next Doomer, but that's just a project that is beyond the bounds of my sanity.

Post by **solarsnowfall** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 21:42

Well maybe you can help direct mac53 in his efforts. Even that unfinished sprite looks great.

YouTube · Post by **Nash** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 10:34

Shinjanji, what do you use the blur and smudge tools for? Do you use Smudge to smoothen out two enlarged pixels?

Shinjanji · Post by **Shinjanji** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 0:21

Yes. I use the original pixels as a base. I know it shouldn't be done, but it's just a bored project!

But yeah, I just blur the pixels and then start painting. I do it mostly just to gain a better feel of a soft shade to refine.

YouTube · Post by **Nash** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:08

I tried to follow your tips but can't seem to get anywhere near close to the results you've posted. If you can assist me by providing step-by-step pics of your process (you can start by doing something small like the health bonus or something), I can help you finish this stuff and who knows, it might turn into a complete sprite set or something.

I'm using a Graphire 4, by the way.