1.1.02

ChupaReaper · Post by **ChupaReaper** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 22:36

So what exactly will his garbage collector do or more how does it do it?
Will it make rendering a large sector full of models any faster?

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 22:59

No, not at all. All it does is to distribute a time consuming task over a larger period of time so that its impact on performance is less - but you really need lots of actors in a map to see it.

ChupaReaper · Post by **ChupaReaper** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 23:02

I've tested a map which has a LOT of actors in and though it is quicker, it still lags to hell hen I enter the main area full of models and particles... I'll add a feature suggestion for this!

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:24

Of course it lags! If you ignore all design advice for Doom maps don't be surprised if that happens.

ChupaReaper · Post by **ChupaReaper** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 14:39

I know, I'm bad for when it comes to making huge maps, I've made a map to support an actor with 3840 radius and 2960 height! Not too laggy though and a very fun boss...

Post by **Rex Claussen** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 21:59

Sector_SetLink - wouldn't this require an updated version of ACS? I just tried to put it into an OPEN script and got the following error message:

$.acs:38: Function sector_setlink is used but not defined.
$.acs:39: Function sector_setlink is used but not defined.
Host byte order: LITTLE endian

I'm not in a hurry to implement this special, but I'm guessing that I'll have to wait until a new ZDooM & ACS release?

Costja · Post by **Costja** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 22:03

Use this zspecial.acs - http://mancubus.net/svn/hosted/zdoom/ac ... pecial.acs

Post by **Rex Claussen** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 17:30

Costja wrote:Use this zspecial.acs - http://mancubus.net/svn/hosted/zdoom/ac ... pecial.acs

Curious. I looked in mancubus.net for a compiled version of the ZDooM SVN but didn't look for the revised ACS code. Thanks for the link; I don't get the script compiling error now.

I'm beginning to think that Sector_SetLink is not intended for 3D sectors. I have tried various combinations of the 'Flat' and 'Type' values, linked different sectors, but to no avail. The sectors move independently when blocked. The worst part is that the real floor or real ceiling (depending on the flat & type values) of the 3D platform sectors move in addition to the platform sectors themselves.

Graf, can this special be used with 3D rising/lowering platforms? If so, it would greatly help me if you (or anyone else reading this post) could whip out a simple example using a 3-sector platform (outer sector is a border, middle sector is the main area of the platform, and inner sector is the "piston" - only the outer and middle sectors are 3D). Thanks.

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 20:28

You have to link the control sector for the 3D-floors, not the 3D-floors themselves.

Post by **Rex Claussen** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 22:43

Graf Zahl wrote:You have to link the control sector for the 3D-floors, not the 3D-floors themselves.

That is what I did originally, before I tried linking the in-game sectors to themselves. [Obviously linking the in-game sectors to themselves messes up the in-game floors and ceilings (as I reported above), and is not the way to go.]

What do I do if all the control sectors have the same tag number (which is how I currently have it)? Should I simply give them separate tag numbers and link the various control sectors together? This is where I'm having a problem understanding how this works - am I supposed to link the control sectors to each other, or am I supposed to link the control sector to the in-game sectors?

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 22:54

You are supposed to link the control sectors for the 3D floors to one master sector that performs the actual movement.

That master sector can be any moving part of your construct or if that doesn't work as intended, even another off-map control sector.

Post by **Rex Claussen** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 15:53

Well, I've tried everything suggested here and it's just not working for my platform. At any rate, I have created an example wad, which is attached. The platform to the West (i.e., the red-bordered one) works the way intended for a platform, except if it meets an obstruction (i.e., Sector_SetLink is not used). Try ducking under the platform while it is lowering to see what happens. You can crawl out from under it to allow the platform to descend.

The platform to the East (i.e., the blue-bordered one) uses Sector_SetLink and a 'Master" sector that controls the movement. In this case the platform does not move at all. I have tried varying the argument values ('type' & 'flat') but if the platform moves it does so in funky ways.

Would you please modify the wad to demonstrate the proper way to use linked sctors, and post it back? Thanks.

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 16:48

Sure, when I find the time (should be over the weekend) I'll do.

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 17:04

Ok, here's your script.

Code: Select all

#include "zcommon.acs"

script 1 OPEN 

{ 
	Sector_SetLink (202, 131, 0, 3);
	Sector_SetLink (202, 200, 0, 3);
	Sector_SetLink (202, 201, 0, 3);
	Sector_SetLink (202, 134, 0, 1);
} 

script 11 (void)
{
	FloorAndCeiling_LowerByValue (2, 8, 128);
	Floor_LowerByValue (1, 8, 128);
	Delay(const:35*5);
	FloorAndCeiling_RaiseByValue (2, 8, 128);
	Floor_RaiseByValue (1, 8, 128);
	TagWait(2);
	TagWait(1);
}

script 12 (void)
{
	Floor_LowerByValue (202, 8, 128);
	Delay(const:35*5);
	Floor_RaiseByValue (202, 8, 128);
	TagWait(202);
}

It doesn't do any crushing. For that you have to do a few more changes:

- Link everything to the ceiling instead of the floor
- Change the control sector so that there's enough space for the lowering ceiling
- Replace Floor_LoverByValue with something that lowers the ceiling and can do crushing

And you may want to add some tagwaits here because otherwise your lift will be stuck forever once it gets blocked.

Post by **Rex Claussen** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 21:23

I tried the new Script 12, and the linked sectors work as one when blocked, and once I crawl out from under the platform. However, once they are lowered they do not rise again. Pressing the switch a second time simply makes them disappear into the floor.

I did add the TagWaits, as follows:

TagWait(200);
TagWait(201);
TagWait(202);
TagWait(131);
TagWait(134);

I modified the script to make it:

FloorandCeiling_LowerByValue (202, 8, 128); and
FloorandCeiling_RaiseByValue (202, 8, 128);

but that did not help. I tried it again with some of the TagWaits commented out (although I would imagine that is contrary to what needs to be done), but that didn't do anything either.

EDIT: Incidentally, 'Type' value 3 is not described in the wiki. Where is that coming from? Is it Type 1+ Type 2? That's the only way I can figure it.