ellmo's PSP adventure

Post by **ellmo** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 20:07

26.06.2006
After having learnt the basics of the basic basics in Paint Shop Pro, I've decided to move on to drawing rather than cutting and pasting. Of course NMN's tutorial is where I begin, of course Paul had to explain me quite a lot of things personally, as my version of PSP is different, and I'm absolutely new to graphic editors that exceed abilities of MS-Paint.

But since I had absolutely no idea what weapon I should start, and I had some serious problems with drawing the shilouette lines, I've decided to base on Duke 64 pistol. That way I basically have the shape I wanted, but I'm free to draw on it what I like. This is what I managed to draw today:

Post by **wildweasel** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 20:12

You've already made greater progress than I have.

Phobus · Post by **Phobus** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 22:05

Hmmm, looks pretty good so far, though I'm no weapons artist (yet). I'd say the basics for perspective and point of focus and all the rest of that stuff are in place, now it just needs to be finished and have a little more character added to it, but you knew that anyway

Post by **ellmo** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 22:59

wildweasel wrote:You've already made greater progress than I have.

Well, I've been drawing lines over an existing pistol, so the sprite wasn't 100% my skill and imagination, but I've just come into a simple conclusion, that this primitive saying of beginner poets is very true: "If you want to write, you have to write". No matter how lame it sounds, and at the first moment it seems pretty retarded, it's deeper than you would have originally thought.

To put it in other words (this one is from skadoomer): "If all you can do is crap, then build crap... but build!" - amen to that.

Doomed Soul · Post by **Doomed Soul** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:52

OMG plz finish it! Looks WAY better than the crap I make in MSPaint

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Post by **Paul** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:55

Looks great. The perspective might be a bit off, but it's not noticable without the lines, so it's fine.

Have you noticed I am the person mentioned most often in your posts

Post by **ellmo** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 18:02

Paul wrote:Have you noticed I am the person mentioned most often in your posts

Cause we're cooperating pretty much, and you're always available when I need help. I don't really see anything strange in it, we've come along way together and were always helping each other in that or another way.

I'm just happy that we have DRD and I'm a part of it. If there was no such community, I would have probably stopped doing anything for doom about one and a half year ago.

Doomed Soul wrote:OMG plz finish it! Looks WAY better than the crap I make in MSPaint .

I'm not surprised, you are almost left without any chances of succeding in MS Paint. I think that even the greatest computer artist would have serious problems of drawing anything without opacities, layers and some simple tools like lightning, warping, smudging softening and sharpening.

If you're thinking seriously about doing even one weapon frame that doesn't instantly kill your eyes - get some more sophisticated soft.
Even if you're not going to become an artist, it's always good to know a thing or two about graphics, so when you want a small image slightly modified, you know your own way around - and don't have to call for "experts".

TheDarkArchon · Post by **TheDarkArchon** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 20:38

ellmo: Vader uses paint and look at some of the stuff he comes out with.

Phobus · Post by **Phobus** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 20:41

Vader uses paint? Yes! I'm not the only one!! \o/

Therefore, there's hopes that I may be on a par with him one day...

...maybe not that far, but it does show paint isn't the deciding factor in skill

Post by **ellmo** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 21:49

Phobus wrote:...maybe not that far, but it does show paint isn't the deciding factor in skill

Well, the software simply cannot have anything to do with the skill, can it?

Phobus · Post by **Phobus** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 21:59

No, but people always seem to assume that using MSPaint will result in awful, cartoony drawings, as though using Paint is having a bad skill. I see why the two could equate, but TBH, it probably takes more skill to produce a very high quality drawing in Paint, than it does in PSP, because Paint has no special tools for shading and stuff.

Post by **Enjay** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 22:11

Phobus wrote:it probably takes more skill to produce a very high quality drawing in Paint, than it does in PSP, because Paint has no special tools for shading and stuff.

Probably true, but if the person with skill enough to use Paint to make a good final product used a more advanced package...

Post by **Paul** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:47

I think that even the greatest computer artist would have serious problems of drawing anything without (...).

Bollocks. Skill is not dependant on software/tools you use. But a better prog DOES make the life easier.

Post by **ellmo** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 14:41

Paul wrote:
I think that even the greatest computer artist would have serious problems of drawing anything without (...).
Bollocks. Skill is not dependant on software/tools you use. But a better prog DOES make the life easier.

Pardon me, but that's exactly what I said, and I also stated these (but maybe not implicite)

Having problems != impossible.
Skill != software

Post by **Paul** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 15:09