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WTF with the "new" opengl renderer of the v1.0.20 ?

Ati Radeon 9700 Pro with the very latest drivers, which were perfect with the v 1.0.18
Now, my screens are full of flying glitches...
I have also flying triangles and squares which come to fly everywhere

What is strange is that it's not always the case: sometimes, all is fine, sometimes, all is bad, and when it begins to be bad, nothing is possible to stop it. Launching the game one more time is solving it for some secondes, than all is happening again.

Yes, I know: you're in love with Ati, hey?

Ok, it seems to me that the latest Ati drivers are hardly bugged...
Those drivers v.6-8 are shitty ones.
I came back to the wonderful (for me) v6-5 and all seems to be as fine as with the GZDoom drivers v1.0.18. Thus, I'm using the latest v1.0.20

Resume: Ati sucks!!!
Period!!!

Oh god! These are the strangest glitches I have ever seen. I'm wondering how a driver can be that screwed up...

Indeed. These were caused by driver glitches??

I would normally have diagnosed the problem as a GPU cooling issue as these artifacts look to be happening post rasterization (other than the "flying triangles trying to poke out my eyeballs" which is a somewhat regular sighting in buggy drivers). Odd.

Graf - Are there any fragment programs going on in that scene?

Currently the only thing that can use shaders are warped textures, so no.

DaniJ wrote:I would normally have diagnosed the problem as a GPU cooling issue as these artifacts look to be happening post rasterization (other than the "flying triangles trying to poke out my eyeballs" which is a somewhat regular sighting in buggy drivers). Odd.

Yes, you're right, but in my case, it wasn't the explanation. I have a Zahlman, also written "Zalman", model CNPS6000-Cu, and this system is the most advanced one for this kind of cooler. Plus, it's working perfectly well.

You could investigate your OpenGl code, because I have exactly the same garbage on my screen with the Ati drivers 6.50, when all was fine with GZDoom v1.015

Resume:
- GZDoom v1.0.15 and Ati drivers v6.50 : perfection
- GZDoom v1.0.20 and Ati drivers 6.50 or v6.80 is atrocious!!!

I didn't use GZDoom v1.0.18 and I can't tell if the problem was already occuring with it.

About Ati... I must be totally stupid, because I have just discovered that the Ati Catalyst Control Center (CCC) MUST be loaded in the memory to allow all of my settings to be used.

I thought wrongly that the CCC was here for the only purpose to let me customize my settings, but, in fact, if I close the CCC, I don't have anymore the incredible Temporal Anti-Aliasing, making the screen totally free of pixellized lines. It makes me think that the fact to unload it from the memory may be at the origin of my problems and of the garbage reported upper.

Resume:
- with the CCC ==> AA egal 100% of efficiency (yes: 100% !!!)
- without CCC ==> AA absolutely not efficient

The CCC must not be removed from the memory!!!

I hope that it's helping you to understand what happened.

The "Ati's world" or the true story of an idiot...

Some months ago, my PC crashed and my Windows was so corrupted that I had to reinstall everything...
Everything...
I forgot to reinstall the Via drivers, so that, since this long time, my AGP wasn't used, and my Ati was used like a PCI Graphic Card !!!

So, all my slowdowns were coming from this incredible lapse of memory of mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
An ass, I'm an ass !!!

Since yesterday, with the Via AGP drivers reinstalled, all is fine...
A dumb, I'm a dumbass, a kickass dumbass, a... Ok, I stop it.

Some news coming from your beloved reporter Jive, or The true (and sad) story of the Darkest Ati's Sides...



Memory, I like so much your deepest holes, where I can play with your nerves as long as I'm pleased to do it...

Occured with the latest Ati drivers v6.8 (Catalyst 6-8_xp-2k_dd_ccc_wdm_enu_35179.exe) and GZDoom v1.0.21
I must add that I had properly uninstalled the previous drivers (v6.5) with the Ati's Removal Tool, because I had corrupted screenshots, which was already happened in the past with bugged drivers.

Ati, I'm in deep love of you, oh yeah baby!!!
Your new AA is simply awesome, and I'm don't want to spend more bucks, simply because you are unable to have (to pay) good coders!!!