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Game runs but instantly minimises to the Taskbar

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Basically when I try to run GZDoom it successfully starts but then instantly minimises as though I had pressed Shift-Tab. I cannot click on the icon although if I hover the cursor over it, I can see the game running in a thumbnail. I can also hear the game running. This is a strange error as the game has always run fine for me previously. My operating system is Windows 8.1.
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Re: Game runs but instantly minimises to the Taskbar

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Apologies, here are my machine's tech specs from Dxdiag:

Time of this report: 10/1/2014, 22:44:43
Machine name: GAMING
Operating System: Windows 8.1 64-bit (6.3, Build 9600) (9600.winblue_gdr.140723-2018)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Acer
System Model: Aspire TC-105
BIOS: P12-A3
Processor: AMD A10-6700 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics (4 CPUs), ~3.7GHz
Memory: 6144MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 6076MB RAM
Page File: 2313MB used, 4785MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.03.9600.16384 64bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Display Tab 2: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: Microsoft Basic Display Driver
Manufacturer:
Chip type:
DAC type:
Device Type: Display-Only Device
Device Key: Enum\ROOT\BASICDISPLAY
Display Memory: 256 MB
Dedicated Memory: 0 MB
Shared Memory: 256 MB
Current Mode: 640 x 480 (32 bit) (64Hz)
Monitor Name: Generic Non-PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: unknown
Monitor Id:
Native Mode: unknown
Output Type: Other
Driver Name:
Driver File Version: ()
Driver Version:
DDI Version: 11.1
Feature Levels: 11.1,11.0,10.1,10.0,9.3,9.2,9.1
Driver Model: WDDM 1.3
Graphics Preemption: DMA
Compute Preemption: DMA
Miracast: Not Supported by Graphics driver
Hybrid Graphics GPU: Not Supported
Power P-states: Not Supported
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: , 0 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
Device Identifier: {D7B71AF4-43CC-11CF-8B20-8005ACC2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x1414
Device ID: 0x008C
SubSys ID: 0x00000000
Revision ID: 0x0000
Driver Strong Name: basicdisplay.inf:1080904755d1bda1:MSBDD_Fallback:6.3.9600.16384:ROOT\BasicDisplay
Rank Of Driver: 00FB0000
Video Accel:
DXVA2 Modes:
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Re: Game runs but instantly minimises to the Taskbar

Post by Kappes Buur »

It's all well and good to supply as much information as possible, but you left out the most important information.
Which version of GZDoom and which version of OpenGL ?

If you cannot generate a logfile, then run something like
  • GPU-Z or GPU Caps Viewer
to find out which version of OpenGL is supported by your video adapter,
and report back.
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Re: Game runs but instantly minimises to the Taskbar

Post by Wadanny »

Thanks for the advice, I believe I have successfully generated a logfile, but you'll need to bear with me as I'm not really an expert at these things!

Log started: Thu Oct 02 15:16:22 2014

W_Init: Init WADfiles.
adding C:/gzdoom/gzdoom.pk3, 583 lumps
adding ./doom2.wad, 2919 lumps
I_Init: Setting up machine state.
CPU Speed: 3693 MHz
CPU Vendor ID: AuthenticAMD
Name: AMD A10-6700 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics
Family 21 (21), Model 19, Stepping 1
Features: MMX MMX+ SSE SSE2 SSE3 SSSE3 SSE4.1 SSE4.2
I_InitSound: Initializing FMOD
FMOD Sound System, copyright © Firelight Technologies Pty, Ltd., 1994-2009.
Loaded FMOD version 4.26.27
V_Init: allocate screen.
S_Init: Setting up sound.
ST_Init: Init startup screen.
Checking cmd-line parameters...
S_InitData: Load sound definitions.
G_ParseMapInfo: Load map definitions.
Texman.Init: Init texture manager.
ParseTeamInfo: Load team definitions.
LoadActors: Load actor definitions.
R_Init: Init Doom refresh subsystem.
DecalLibrary: Load decals.
M_Init: Init menus.
P_Init: Init Playloop state.
ParseSBarInfo: Loading default status bar definition.
ParseSBarInfo: Loading custom status bar definition.
D_CheckNetGame: Checking network game status.
player 1 of 1 (1 nodes)
I_InitInput
I_StartupMouse
I_StartupKeyboard
I_StartupXInput
I_StartupRawPS2
I_StartupDirectInputJoystick
GL_VENDOR: ATI Technologies Inc.
GL_RENDERER: AMD Radeon R9 200 Series
GL_VERSION: 3.3.12618 Compatibility Profile Context 13.251.9001.1001
GL_SHADING_LANGUAGE_VERSION: 4.30
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Re: Game runs but instantly minimises to the Taskbar

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Kappes Buur wrote:Which version of GZDoom and which version of OpenGL ?
Version of GZDoom: still unknown
Version of OpenGL: GL_VERSION: 3.3.12618 ... from the log file

Meanwhile, read this News thread http://forum.drdteam.org/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=6398
Maybe a solution suggests itself.
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Re: Game runs but instantly minimises to the Taskbar

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Thanks very much for the link. I tried it with a Doom 2 WAD file but it crashes to the desktop almost instantly.

In the meantime my version of GZDoom is g1.8.2 if that helps?
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Re: Game runs but instantly minimises to the Taskbar

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Wadanny wrote:Thanks very much for the link. I tried it with a Doom 2 WAD file but it crashes to the desktop almost instantly.

In the meantime my version of GZDoom is g1.8.2 if that helps?
I never tried version 1.8.2, so I cannot comment on it.
What if you tried one of the g1.9 development versions which can be downloaded from http://devbuilds.drdteam.org/gzdoom/

The development versions g2.1 need OpenGL 4.x, which, most likely, will cause problems for you in other ways.

[edit]
In view of Graf Zahl's answers below, you might also want to try a g2.1 dev build.

[edit2]
Your logfile was truncated probably due to the crash. Past the last line it should have listed the GL_EXTENSIONS and the video settings used by the engine.

[edit3]
Something like this:
Spoiler:
Last edited by Kappes Buur on Thu Oct 02, 2014 23:55, edited 3 times in total.
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Re: Game runs but instantly minimises to the Taskbar

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Kappes Buur wrote: The development versions g2.1 need OpenGL 4.x, which, most likely, will cause problems for you in other ways.

No, they don't anymore. They need 3.0 plus the GL_ARB_texture_samplers extension.
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Re: Game runs but instantly minimises to the Taskbar

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Good to know. Thanks
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Re: Game runs but instantly minimises to the Taskbar

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Thanks for all this help. I have downloaded a dev build but not entirely sure how to use it, it has a file format designated as "7z?"

I've looked in the logfile again and I don't know if this is the data you are looking for. As I say, the game does not actually 'crash' in the traditional sense. It runs in the taskbar and when I hover the mouse over the icon I see a thumbnail of it running fine. I simply cannot get it to appear either as a window or fullscreen. It is as though I have immediately pressed Ctrl - Shift - Tab upon starting the game.

Here is my logfile reposted in full. Thanks again for the continued help. :-)

Log started: Fri Oct 03 16:56:02 2014

W_Init: Init WADfiles.
adding C:/gzdoom/gzdoom.pk3, 583 lumps
adding ./doom2.wad, 2919 lumps
I_Init: Setting up machine state.
CPU Speed: 3693 MHz
CPU Vendor ID: AuthenticAMD
Name: AMD A10-6700 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics
Family 21 (21), Model 19, Stepping 1
Features: MMX MMX+ SSE SSE2 SSE3 SSSE3 SSE4.1 SSE4.2
I_InitSound: Initializing FMOD
FMOD Sound System, copyright © Firelight Technologies Pty, Ltd., 1994-2009.
Loaded FMOD version 4.26.27
V_Init: allocate screen.
S_Init: Setting up sound.
ST_Init: Init startup screen.
Checking cmd-line parameters...
S_InitData: Load sound definitions.
G_ParseMapInfo: Load map definitions.
Texman.Init: Init texture manager.
ParseTeamInfo: Load team definitions.
LoadActors: Load actor definitions.
R_Init: Init Doom refresh subsystem.
DecalLibrary: Load decals.
M_Init: Init menus.
P_Init: Init Playloop state.
ParseSBarInfo: Loading default status bar definition.
ParseSBarInfo: Loading custom status bar definition.
D_CheckNetGame: Checking network game status.
player 1 of 1 (1 nodes)
I_InitInput
I_StartupMouse
I_StartupKeyboard
I_StartupXInput
I_StartupRawPS2
I_StartupDirectInputJoystick
GL_VENDOR: ATI Technologies Inc.
GL_RENDERER: AMD Radeon R9 200 Series
GL_VERSION: 3.3.12618 Compatibility Profile Context 13.251.9001.1001
GL_SHADING_LANGUAGE_VERSION: 4.30
GL_EXTENSIONS: GL_AMDX_debug_output GL_AMD_blend_minmax_factor GL_AMD_conservative_depth GL_AMD_debug_output GL_AMD_depth_clamp_separate GL_AMD_draw_buffers_blend GL_AMD_interleaved_elements GL_AMD_multi_draw_indirect GL_AMD_name_gen_delete GL_AMD_performance_monitor GL_AMD_pinned_memory GL_AMD_query_buffer_object GL_AMD_sample_positions GL_AMD_seamless_cubemap_per_texture GL_AMD_shader_atomic_counter_ops GL_AMD_shader_stencil_export GL_AMD_shader_stencil_value_export GL_AMD_shader_trace GL_AMD_shader_trinary_minmax GL_AMD_sparse_texture GL_AMD_stencil_operation_extended GL_AMD_texture_cube_map_array GL_AMD_texture_texture4 GL_AMD_transform_feedback3_lines_triangles GL_AMD_transform_feedback4 GL_AMD_vertex_shader_layer GL_AMD_vertex_shader_viewport_index GL_ARB_ES2_compatibility GL_ARB_ES3_compatibility GL_ARB_arrays_of_arrays GL_ARB_base_instance GL_ARB_blend_func_extended GL_ARB_clear_buffer_object GL_ARB_color_buffer_float GL_ARB_compatibility GL_ARB_compressed_texture_pixel_storage GL_ARB_compute_shader GL_ARB_conservative_depth GL_ARB_copy_buffer GL_ARB_copy_image GL_ARB_debug_output GL_ARB_depth_buffer_float GL_ARB_depth_clamp GL_ARB_depth_texture GL_ARB_draw_buffers GL_ARB_draw_buffers_blend GL_ARB_draw_elements_base_vertex GL_ARB_draw_indirect GL_ARB_draw_instanced GL_ARB_explicit_attrib_location GL_ARB_explicit_uniform_location GL_ARB_fragment_coord_conventions GL_ARB_fragment_layer_viewport GL_ARB_fragment_program GL_ARB_fragment_program_shadow GL_ARB_fragment_shader GL_ARB_framebuffer_no_attachments GL_ARB_framebuffer_object GL_ARB_framebuffer_sRGB GL_ARB_geometry_shader4 GL_ARB_get_program_binary GL_ARB_gpu_shader5 GL_ARB_gpu_shader_fp64 GL_ARB_half_float_pixel GL_ARB_half_float_vertex GL_ARB_imaging GL_ARB_instanced_arrays GL_ARB_internalformat_query GL_ARB_internalformat_query2 GL_ARB_invalidate_subdata GL_ARB_map_buffer_alignment GL_ARB_map_buffer_range GL_ARB_multi_draw_indirect GL_ARB_multisample GL_ARB_multitexture GL_ARB_occlusion_query GL_ARB_occlusion_query2 GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object GL_ARB_point_parameters GL_ARB_point_sprite GL_ARB_program_interface_query GL_ARB_provoking_vertex GL_ARB_query_buffer_object GL_ARB_sample_shading GL_ARB_sampler_objects GL_ARB_seamless_cube_map GL_ARB_seamless_cubemap_per_texture GL_ARB_separate_shader_objects GL_ARB_shader_atomic_counters GL_ARB_shader_bit_encoding GL_ARB_shader_image_load_store GL_ARB_shader_image_size GL_ARB_shader_objects GL_ARB_shader_precision GL_ARB_shader_stencil_export GL_ARB_shader_storage_buffer_object GL_ARB_shader_subroutine GL_ARB_shader_texture_lod GL_ARB_shading_language_100 GL_ARB_shading_language_420pack GL_ARB_shading_language_packing GL_ARB_shadow GL_ARB_shadow_ambient GL_ARB_stencil_texturing GL_ARB_sync GL_ARB_tessellation_shader GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp GL_ARB_texture_buffer_object GL_ARB_texture_buffer_object_rgb32 GL_ARB_texture_buffer_range GL_ARB_texture_compression GL_ARB_texture_compression_bptc GL_ARB_texture_compression_rgtc GL_ARB_texture_cube_map GL_ARB_texture_cube_map_array GL_ARB_texture_env_add GL_ARB_texture_env_combine GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3 GL_ARB_texture_float GL_ARB_texture_gather GL_ARB_texture_mirror_clamp_to_edge GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_ARB_texture_multisample GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two GL_ARB_texture_query_levels GL_ARB_texture_query_lod GL_ARB_texture_rectangle GL_ARB_texture_rg GL_ARB_texture_rgb10_a2ui GL_ARB_texture_snorm GL_ARB_texture_storage GL_ARB_texture_storage_multisample GL_ARB_texture_view GL_ARB_timer_query GL_ARB_transform_feedback2 GL_ARB_transform_feedback3 GL_ARB_transform_feedback_instanced GL_ARB_transpose_matrix GL_ARB_uniform_buffer_object GL_ARB_vertex_array_bgra GL_ARB_vertex_array_object GL_ARB_vertex_attrib_64bit GL_ARB_vertex_attrib_binding GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object GL_ARB_vertex_program GL_ARB_vertex_shader GL_ARB_vertex_type_10f_11f_11f_rev GL_ARB_vertex_type_2_10_10_10_rev GL_ARB_viewport_array GL_ARB_window_pos GL_ATI_draw_buffers GL_ATI_envmap_bumpmap GL_ATI_fragment_shader GL_ATI_separate_stencil GL_ATI_texture_compression_3dc GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3 GL_ATI_texture_float GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once GL_EXT_abgr GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_bindable_uniform GL_EXT_blend_color GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate GL_EXT_blend_func_separate GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_blend_subtract GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array GL_EXT_copy_buffer GL_EXT_copy_texture GL_EXT_depth_bounds_test GL_EXT_direct_state_access GL_EXT_draw_buffers2 GL_EXT_draw_instanced GL_EXT_draw_range_elements GL_EXT_fog_coord GL_EXT_framebuffer_blit GL_EXT_framebuffer_multisample GL_EXT_framebuffer_object GL_EXT_framebuffer_sRGB GL_EXT_geometry_shader4 GL_EXT_gpu_program_parameters GL_EXT_gpu_shader4 GL_EXT_histogram GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays GL_EXT_packed_depth_stencil GL_EXT_packed_float GL_EXT_packed_pixels GL_EXT_pixel_buffer_object GL_EXT_point_parameters GL_EXT_provoking_vertex GL_EXT_rescale_normal GL_EXT_secondary_color GL_EXT_separate_specular_color GL_EXT_shader_image_load_store GL_EXT_shadow_funcs GL_EXT_stencil_wrap GL_EXT_subtexture GL_EXT_texgen_reflection GL_EXT_texture3D GL_EXT_texture_array GL_EXT_texture_buffer_object GL_EXT_texture_compression_bptc GL_EXT_texture_compression_latc GL_EXT_texture_compression_rgtc GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc GL_EXT_texture_cube_map GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp GL_EXT_texture_env_add GL_EXT_texture_env_combine GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3 GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic GL_EXT_texture_integer GL_EXT_texture_lod GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias GL_EXT_texture_mirror_clamp GL_EXT_texture_object GL_EXT_texture_rectangle GL_EXT_texture_sRGB GL_EXT_texture_sRGB_decode GL_EXT_texture_shared_exponent GL_EXT_texture_snorm GL_EXT_texture_storage GL_EXT_texture_swizzle GL_EXT_timer_query GL_EXT_transform_feedback GL_EXT_vertex_array GL_EXT_vertex_array_bgra GL_EXT_vertex_attrib_64bit GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_KHR_debug GL_KTX_buffer_region GL_NV_blend_square GL_NV_conditional_render GL_NV_copy_depth_to_color GL_NV_copy_image GL_NV_explicit_multisample GL_NV_float_buffer GL_NV_half_float GL_NV_primitive_restart GL_NV_texgen_reflection GL_NV_texture_barrier GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp GL_SGIS_texture_lod GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays GL_WIN_swap_hint WGL_EXT_swap_control
Max. texture units: 32
Max. fragment uniforms: 1024
Max. vertex uniforms: 1024
Max. varying: 128
Max. combined uniforms: 246784
Max. combined uniform blocks: 75
Support for non power 2 textures enabled.
Occlusion query enabled.
Resolution: 640 x 480
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Re: Game runs but instantly minimises to the Taskbar

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7z is an improvement over zip or rar and is preferred in the doom community.
The app can deal with every popular compression format.

http://www.7-zip.org/

Graf Zahl mentioned the GL_Extension GL_ARB_texture_samplers, which I cannot see in your logfile.
This is probably a sign that the driver for your video adapter is not properly supported. If that could be
the cause for the minimization, I do not know.

If the minimization persists with the g2.x builds, then it is time to try older builds of GZDoom.
If you load a new version of GZDoom into the same folder and thusly overwrite the old version, you should
delete the file zdoom-user.ini and let a new file be generated.
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Re: Game runs but instantly minimises to the Taskbar

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I made a mistake. The extension is called GL_ARB_sampler_objects - and that is supported by every graphics card that has GL 3.0 support. A missing GL extension that's not being checked for would result in a crash, not a minimized window.

I suspect some other software playing foul here and forcing the window to minimize. Another possibility is that the system attempts to display the window on a secondary monitor that doesn't exist. I definitely have seen that happen on occasion when I unplugged my TV which is normally configured as secondary monitor.
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Re: Game runs but instantly minimises to the Taskbar

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Since there is no more feedback, I'm closing this as 'not GZDoom'.
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