Player model skin bugs caused by player color translations

Alex-bomber_Man · Post by **Alex-bomber_Man** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:02

I've found great bugs with player model skins palete in new version.
I attach the screens where you can see lots of bugs (black and white colors on the legs
of the model) with a blue skin and even more bugs on yellow skin on the player model in my mod Quaked Dimension. There was not such a bug in prevuous versions. it is caused with sprite skin pallete translation - i've found it whie testing.

Post by **Enjay** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:09

What format of graphic are you using for the skin? Is it in the Doom palette?

This may be relevant

http://forum.drdteam.org/viewtopic.php?t=2733

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 9:26

I have 3 choices here:

1. leave it as it is
2. Disable translations for non-Doom-format graphics that don't match the Doom palette.
3. Disable translations for models altogether.

No matter what choice I take, somebody will complain.

Post by **Enjay** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 9:59

IMO, leave it as it is (first choice) or disable it for non Doom graphics. Just like any feature, it is a modder's responsibility to use it correctly and if they don't there could be consequences that they don't like.

Disabling altogether would remove the possibility from people who would use it properly.

Graf Zahl wrote:No matter what choice I take, somebody will complain.

Sad but true.

YouTube · Post by **Nash** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 10:42

I vote Option 1 or 2. There are people who know how to use features properly.

Post by **Enjay** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:00

And only option 2 if you feel the need to wipe people's backsides for them.

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:55

Option 2 isn't so hard to implement. But that will endlessly confuse those who think that cyan is an integral part of the Doom palette.

But IMO it's the best option to take.

TheDarkArchon · Post by **TheDarkArchon** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 15:19

You can blame XWE/WinTex for that...

Post by **Enjay** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 23:13

You can probably blame DMGRAPH.EXE which predates both of those and (perhaps) was the first Doom graphics insert/extracting tool.

Post by **Torr Samaho** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 14:48

What about a IGNORETRANSLATION flag in the model definition? This will take me 5 to 10 minutes to implement and should make (nearly) everybody happy.

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 15:16

Good idea.

Alex-bomber_Man · Post by **Alex-bomber_Man** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:04

I've tried JPG skins - no problems when using 'em =)

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 17:13

Since they don't have any palette there's nothing to translate.

Post by **Torr Samaho** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 20:43

I added the IGNORETRANSLATION flag to ST.